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Srimad Bhagavatam

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Austin, TX, USA

26 August 2022

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rājann asādhv-amātyebhyaś
corādibhyaḥ prajā nṛpaḥ
rakṣan yathā baliṁ gṛhṇann
iha pretya ca modate

Synonyms

rājan — O King; asādhu — mischievous; amātyebhyaḥ — from ministers; cora-ādibhyaḥ — from thieves and rogues; prajāḥ — the citizens; nṛpaḥ — the king; rakṣan — protecting; yathā — accordingly as; balim — taxes; gṛhṇan — accepting; iha — in this world; pretya — after death; ca — also; modate — enjoys.

Translation

The saintly persons continued: When the king protects the citizens from the disturbances of mischievous ministers as well as from thieves and rogues, he can, by virtue of such pious activities, accept taxes given by his subjects. Thus a pious king can certainly enjoy himself in this world as well as in the life after death.

Purport

The duty of a pious king is described very nicely in this verse. His first and foremost duty is to give protection to the citizens from thieves and rogues as well as from ministers who are no better than thieves and rogues. Formerly, ministers were appointed by the king and were not elected. Consequently, if the king was not very pious or strict, the ministers would become thieves and rogues and exploit the innocent citizens. It is the king’s duty to see that there is no increase of thieves and rogues either in the government secretariat or in the departments of public affairs. If a king cannot give protection to citizens from thieves and rogues both in the government service and in public affairs, he has no right to exact taxes from them. In other words, the king or the government that taxes can levy taxes from the citizens only if the king or government is able to give protection to the citizens from thieves and rogues.

In the Twelfth Canto of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (12.1.40) there is a description of these thieves and rogues in government service. As stated, prajās te bhakṣayiṣyanti mlecchā rājanya-rūpiṇaḥ: “These proud mlecchas [persons who are less than śūdras], representing themselves as kings, will tyrannize their subjects, and their subjects, on the other hand, will cultivate the most vicious practices. Thus practicing evil habits and behaving foolishly, the subjects will be like their rulers.” The idea is that in the democratic days of Kali-yuga, the general population will fall down to the standard of śūdras. As stated (kalau śūdra-sambhavaḥ), practically the whole population of the world will be śūdra. A śūdra is a fourth-class man who is only fit to work for the three higher social castes. Being fourth-class men, śūdras are not very intelligent. Since the population is fallen in these democratic days, they can only elect a person in their category, but a government cannot run very well when it is run by śūdras. The second class of men, known as kṣatriyas, are especially meant for governing a country under the direction of saintly persons (brāhmaṇas) who are supposed to be very intelligent. In other ages — in Satya-yuga, Tretā-yuga and Dvāpara-yuga — the general populace was not so degraded, and the head of government was never elected. The king was the supreme executive personality, and if he caught any ministers stealing like thieves and rogues, he would at once have them killed or dismissed from service. As it was the duty of the king to kill thieves and rogues, it was similarly his duty to immediately kill dishonest ministers in government service. By such strict vigilance, the king could run the government very well, and the citizens would be happy to have such a king. The conclusion is that unless the king is perfectly able to give protection to the citizens from rogues and thieves, he has no right to levy taxes from the citizens for his own sense gratification. However, if he gives all protection to the citizens and levies taxes on them, he can live very happily and peacefully in this life, and at the end of this life be elevated to the heavenly kingdom or even to the Vaikuṇṭhas, where he will be happy in all respects. (End of purport)

Sankarshan das Adhikari:

vande ham sri-guroh sri-yuta-pada-kamalam sri-gurun vaishnavams ca

sri-rupam sagrajatam saha-gana-raghunathanvitam tam sa jivam

sadvaitam savadhutam parijana-sahitam krishna-caitanya-devam

sri-radha-krishna-padan saha-gana-lalita- sri-visakhanvitams ca

nama om vishnu-padaya krishna-preshthaya bhu-tale

srimate bhaktivedanta-svamin iti namine

namas te sarasvate deve gaura-vani-pracarine

nirvisesha-sunyavadi-pascatya-desa-tarine

This idea of protesting against the government is actually a proper mentality. I remember when I grew up the mood of the people of this country then was, they had come out of the World War II and they were very dedicated to the US government but the youth they were called baby boomers, we were born after the World War II. The baby boomers those who were born after the World War II grew up with different mentality, because we were seeing so many faults and so protesting against the government was considered very proper thing to do and that was actually setting the stage for Prabhupada to come to give the actual protest.

Here Prabhupada is giving the actual understanding what is proper government. The proper government actually is the king. The king is the well-wisher of all the citizens. He makes sure there are no thieves and rogues he can even kill them he does not have to go to some trial or something he can immediately kill. Nowadays you can be a murderer and if you have enough money, you can appeal your conviction you can be postponed. You can sit in the prison for many, many years and not face capital punishment. We see it all the time murderers are sitting and waiting for capital punishment for twenty years before they are executed.

In the Vedic culture immediately right on the spotkill him, no trial no judge, no jury, the king himself as the perfect judge who is proper and who is improper and immediately kills them those rascals. In that way the thieves and rogues were curbed down.

Here there are so many thieves and rogues, thousands and millions of thieves and rogues all over the world cheating in this way cheating in that way cheating and cheating and cheating. In fact, the modern-day society is called the society of the cheaters and the cheated. Everybody was trying to cheat us, we only found one person who wasn’t trying to cheat us and that was Srila Prabhupada. The whole world is full of cheaters, everybody is cheating. For their own selfish greedy, lusty, lazy purposes everyone is motivated. “What’s in it for me” they have a saying. What’s in it for me good old number one. They don’t recognize because they don’t think “God is number one” they think “I am number one”. I am the center everything should be for my pleasure and should satisfy me. It is just like barking dogs you get near their yard woof woof woof. These people are just like barking dogs. The whole society is like barking dogs.

So, we are very fortunate that we are blessed by a great pure devotee who was actually sent by Krishna. These books are directly ordered by God Himself, Krishna. Krishna told Prabhupada that you go there and write those books so these books are very special thing. They are not some ordinary books. These books were ordered by God Himself. So when you pick up Prabhupada’s books you are connected with Srila Prabhupada, you are connected with Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati, Bhaktivinoda Thakkur, with six Goswamis, with Narada muni, you are connected with Radharani and Krishna and Lord Caitanya, just by touching these books and what to speak of reading them and trying to understand them. We have to learn how to see everything through the eyes of the books that is called sastra caksus, one who sees through the eyes of the scriptures. If your eyes are bad you will have to go to an optometrist and get some corrective lenses so you can see things as they are. In this age we all have corrupted vision. We have polluted vision- polluted by lust, anger, greed, madness illusion and envy. We can’t see things as they are. But if we become sastra caksus, we see through the eyes of the scriptures then we can actually know things as they are. That’s why these regular classes are very important. Prabhupada introduced Bhagavatam classes every morning as a standard. Studying Bhagavatam is very important and we also read Caitanya caritamrita, Nectar of Devotion, Teachings of Lord Caitanya, Upadeshamrita- Nectar of Instruction, Sri Upanishad, Easy Journey to other planets, we read all of Prabhupada’s books, every book that Prabhupada has authored. We almost read every one of them. Every day I am reading Prabhupada’s books. I am hearing the classes and I am doing reading on my own also because the more you can read these books and see through the eyes of these books the more your vision becomes perfect. Because the trouble is we are very polluted. We think “I am this body” “I am white” “I am black” “I am American” “I am Indian” “I am Lithuanian” “I am male” “I am female” “I am 74 years old” “I am 25 years old” this is all illusion. We are actually eternal spiritual beings qualitatively one with the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

īśvarah paramaḥ Krsnah
sac-cid-ānanda-vigrahah
anādir ādir govindah
sarva-kārana-kāranam

Krsna who is known as Govinda is the Supreme Godhead. He has an eternal blissful spiritual body. He is the origin of all. He has no other origin and He is the prime cause of all causes.

Since we are being part and parcel of Him, we are qualitatively one with Him. Just like the same percentage of chemicals we find in the entire ocean we find in the drop. Qualitatively they are the same thing, the same percentage of chemicals we find in the total ocean we find in the drop of ocean. Since Krishna has the qualities of eternity, knowledge and bliss, we also have the qualities of eternity, knowledge and bliss the only difference is the quantity. Krishna is infinite and we are infinitesimal that’s the difference. Everything that exist is non-different from Krishna. Just like the sun and the sunshine, sun is spread all over the universe in the form of sunshine. We even sing in that song “here comes the sun” the popular song of the Beatles here comes the sun, was that the sun planet? No. They wouldn’t be singing, they would be dead if the sun planet would have come here but the sunshine came. So the sunshine is also considered the sun. So, the energy of Krishna is also considered Krishna. That’s why Prabhupada taught us, the first lecture I heard in San Francisco was so nice. Prabhupada said that every day you are seeing the sun and the moon. Krishna says, “I am light of the sun and the moon”. He says, “every time you drink water- once, twice, thrice, you remember Krishna is the taste of water.” Then you immediately become Krishna conscious. To become Krishna conscious is not difficult, it simply requires practice.

So I lay down at night in my bedroom and I look out the window and there is the moon, shashi suryayoh- I am light of the sun and the moon. So learn how to experience Krishna every where because Krishna is everywhere. He is in the form of Deity, He is in the form of His Names, He is in the form of prasadam, He is in the form of the Bhagavad-gita, Srimad Bhagavatam, He is in the form of spiritual master the external manifestation of the Supersoul. So, learn how to connect with Krishna unlimitedly. That’s the key. From the moment you wake up till the moment you go to bed at night, you practice during the day then at night you dream about Krishna also. Just like Gurumataji told me that she had a dream yesterday. She told me in her dream there was Radha and Krishna Deities. Because she is so absorbed in serving Krishna 24 hours a day so when she dreams, she also dreaming about Radha and Krishna. We can learn a lot from Gurumataji, she is a very advanced Vaishnava, she really earns the name Gurumataji. She is definitely gurumataji.

If we take this process seriously then our lives will be sublime, we can become sober. That’s what the first instruction I got when I was just coming around. I had not joined yet but I was attracted and Vishnujan swami said, “you have to become sober.” He said in such a way it went in a deep, deep, deep, you have to become sober.

So, we have to give up being intoxicated by the material nature, by the opposite sex, by pleasures of the tongue and the genitals. We have to give up this intoxication. We should have one intoxication only and that is the holy Name, Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama Hare Hare.  Let me become absolutely and totally intoxicated with the nectar of Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama Hare Hare. Even one syllable of the Hare Krishna mantra has so much nectar and can fill up millions and billions and trillions and quadrillions of universes still it has more volumes. We just have to learn how to connect with the holy names that’s why we seriously chant 16 rounds of japa every day. Japa is not something “oh I got to nish nish nama nama get it done, finish, but no. Japa is the most important thing we do every day. Now how am I going to connect with Him. Am I just going to keep it on the tongue only, nish nish nam nama or I am going to take it deep deep into my heart and let Krishna and Radharani dance in my heart. Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama Hare Hare. You have a choice of how seriously you are going to take this process. You can take it lightly or you can take it with the utmost seriousness with the understanding that you can die at any time.

Few days back I came close to death. Somehow Krishna kept me here, it was very sobering thing that to go unconscious in my office and wake up in an ambulance. It was very sobering to have such an experience, To understand that I can die at any time, so let me become perfect now in Krishna consciousness so I can carry out the order of my spiritual master to become guru and deliver the world. I must take it very seriously. I have to become very serious, at every thought, with every word, with every deed in all times places and circumstances. I should be absolutely totally dedicated to Srila Prabhupada and previous acaryas so that I can act perfectly as an instrument in the hands of my beloved Guru Maharaja for bringing the spiritual revolution to this planet as soon as possible.

There is no other solution. Right now, the whole planet is ruled by these damn demons, damn rascals. Just like the supreme court they had little intelligence here to make abortion illegal. But the president he is trying to get around the supreme court ruling to keep the abortion legal, the so-called president he is killing innocent children, he is in favor of murderess of the innocent children just see the so-called president of the United States. So the whole world is very much tortured and perplexed by the rascal baby killers, cow killers, so-called leaders who are no better than man eating rakshasas.

It is our duty to try to become pure devotees of Krishna and to spread pure devotion of Krishna as much as possible bringing it back in every situation Let me be in a mood of purely serving my spiritual master and Krishna in the mood of inspiring others to be pure devotees of guru and Krishna wherever I go in all situations always bringing it back to the point.

yato yato niścalati
manaś cañcalam asthiram
tatas tato niyamyaitad
ātmany eva vaśaṁ nayet

From wherever the mind wanders due to its flickering and unsteady nature, one must certainly withdraw it and bring it back under the control of the Self.

We have to get back, we have to get back, we have to get back where we actually belong. We don’t belong in the clutches of maya. We don’t belong under Durga’s jurisdiction. Durga is the prison keeper. We don’t belong as prisoners of Durga devi.

sṛṣṭi-sthiti-pralaya-sādhana-śaktir ekā
chāyeva yasya bhuvanāni bibharti durgā
icchānurūpam api yasya ca ceṣṭate sā
govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi

The external potency Māyā who is of the nature of the shadow of the cit potency, is worshiped by all people as Durgā, the creating, preserving and destroying agency of this mundane world. I adore the primeval Lord Govinda in accordance with whose will Durgā conducts herself.

We don’t want to remain as prisoners of Durga devi, caught up here in the cycle of birth and death and get carried away by lust anger and greed madness illusion and envy. We want to conquer the lower self by higher self. Actually, each one of us we are not of this material world. Do you realize that we are eternal associates of Krishna in the spiritual world. You actually have a relationship with Krishna as a gopi, a gopa, a cow, a peacock in the mood of a friend, a parent, a girl friend, or a boyfriend, you have an eternal relationship called rasa with Krishna. We don’t try to jump artificially. But we leave that up to Krishna. We don’t, oh, I have to be a gopi or I have to be a cowherd boy otherwise I am not interested. No. we don’t make any conditions. We are in the mood of completely surrendered to Krishna. I belong to You. However way You want me to serve You, if You want me to be a rock where You sit and take Your lunch every day, whatever You want me to do my Lord, I can be a rock, I can be a peacock whatever You want me to be however I can best serve You and please You. That’s our mood total completely surrendered to Krishna, not demanding this rasa or that rasa. We all have eternal relationship with Krishna in the spiritual world. we have rasa with Krishna.

But by thinking what would be like if I was the Supreme, Krishna gave us the chance to explore our curiosity, to get it out of our system basically, because He wants our total love and devotion. But love and devotion cannot be forced. We had a curiosity what it would be like if I was the center of the existence. So okay, don’t think that way, but if you really want to think that way, then I will let you try, you can try to be the center of existence. The first birth we actually take is Brahma. Each one of us were the Lord of the entire universe. So, when we first entered this material world, we were the Lords of the entire universe. Can you imagine we were Brahma we had so many demigods reporting to us, we had a whole universe that we were the Lord of but we weren’t satisfied in that way. Let me try to be Indra, try to be this or try to be that we came all the way from Indra down to indragopa germ trying to be happy in this way and that way for millions and billions and quadrillions of lifetimes we have been caught up here in this time space continuum.

But now somehow or other we got this most fortunate human form and we are most fortunate to have come in contact with the great realized soul who was sent by Krishna Himself to this material world to deliver us His divine grace om Visnu-pada paramahamsa parivrajakacarya astottar-sata srimad A C Bhaktivedanta tridandi Goswami Maharaja Prabhuapada was sent here to deliver us from this madness. We should take very seriously of this mercy of Srila Prabhupada his divine instruction his divine sanga and by associating with those who had his association we also get his association. Just like when I connect with my godbrothers I feel it helps me to strengthen my connection with Prabhupada, not that I only care of Prabhupada and nobody else. The more we can appreciate the servants of the servants of the servants of the servants of the servants of the bona fide spiritual master the more we become dear to the bona fide spiritual master. And the more we become dear to the bona fide spiritual master the more we become dear to Krishna. So, take this process that Prabhupada has given us in his books don’t manufacture your own new version of how to be Krishna conscious, oh, I will think of little sense gratification is ok I will mix in with little sense gratification here, some sense gratifications there, no, don’t cheat yourself while trying to water down this process. Take it in its original pure form. If you take the watered-down version, you are not going to get free from lust anger and greed madness illusion and envy. Take the full version that Prabhupada is giving us without any pollutions or distortion. Take it exactly as Prabhupada has given us and your life would be unbelievably sublime.

Devotee: How to keep mind pure and free from lusty thoughts.

SDA: By keeping it fixed in Krishna.

yato yato niścalati
manaś cañcalam asthiram

From wherever the mind wanders due to its flickering and unsteady nature, one must certainly withdraw it and bring it back under the control of the Self. Always keep bringing the mind back to Krishna. There are so many ways you can see the picture of Krishna; you can read a verse. You can memorize a verse. You can chant a verse. You can sing a bhajan. Just like there is a beautiful bhajan that I learned many years ago that Prabhupada sings and I often sing it during the morning program while I am doing the services getting things ready to go on altar I just start singing the bhajan by Narottam.

'gaurāńga' bolite habe pulaka-śarīra
'hari hari' bolite nayane ba' be nīra.

That way, to me just doing the services is not enough, my mind could be thinking of nonsense while I am doing services so I just sings some bhajans also when I dress the Deities also. There is also a beautiful song about the holy places of Vrindavan. Every day when I sit down to bathe Prabhupada I not only bathe Prabhupada but I sing this bhajan.

jaya rādhe, jaya kṛṣṇa, jaya vṛndāvan

śrī govinda, gopīnātha, madana-mohan

I sing the whole bhajan everyday when I am bathing Prabhupada. we have to do everything we can, engage in devotional service, chant and sing bhajans, chant some verses. Just like everyday I like to chant Brahma Samhita prayers- the Govinda prayers. Those prayers are very nice. They are very powerful. Just like the one-

ānanda-cinmaya-rasātmatayā manaḥsu
yaḥ prāṇināṁ pratiphalan smaratām upetya
līlāyitena bhuvanāni jayaty ajasram-
govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi

I worship Govinda, the primeval Lord, whose glory ever triumphantly dominates the mundane world by the activity of His own pastimes, being reflected in the mind of recollecting souls as the transcendental entity of ever-blissful cognitive rasa.

So Krishna Prema, do you want to be one of those recollecting soul where Krishna did this, Krishna did that, Krishna said this. Because of His loving affection for Arjuna, Krishna broke His promise. He said “I will not take part in the fight I will be just your charioteer” but when Bhismadeva was instigated by Duryodhana that you must kill Arjuna. He said, “Yes, I will do it”, but then Krishna had to break His promise. For Krishna even His promise is less important in protecting His devotees. Just see the love and affection that Krishna has for His devotees that He had to break His promise to protect His devotee. Just think about these glorious pastimes of Krishna. I always think about this pastime and that pastime sometimes if we don’t have enough memory than read the Krishna book, cover to cover, this pastime that pastime, so many lilas, the Damodar lila bound with the ropes and there is pastimes with the Deities also. You can meditate on Deitie’s pastimes also because the Deities are also Krishna. The original Damodar in ISKCON, there is a very interesting lila. There was a traveling Rock concert and they had the school bus, it was kind of bouncy and they had very beautiful Deities of Radha and Krishna but to keep the Deities from falling down when they are bouncing up, they tied Him with ropes. When Prabhupada heard oh, they are tying Krishna with ropes then Prabhupada said you can name that naughty boy Damodar from today. Prabhupada can call Him a naughty boy. So this is a pastime. And these Deities we have they are named after. Those became personal Deities of Radha-Damodar travelling Sankirtan party of Vishnujan swami and Tamal Krishna Goswami and then later on Tamal Krishna Goswami was blessed with finding this Deity on Juhu beach on the morning walk. One day the tide was very far out to the sea, he noticed there was something shining in the sandy center, the devotee went and picked it up, it was the Deity of Krishna so he named it after the original Radha-Damodar travelling Sankirtan party and we have them. Just meditating on this pastime of Damodar, it is the lila of Krishna. The lila of the Deity and the lila of Krishna Himself in the spiritual world is one and the same. So there are so many ways you can absorb your mind in Krishna conscious thoughts, pastimes, teachings, verses. You can think of how I can do my duty to deliver the world. What can I do to be the deliverer of this world. That’s the order Prabhupada gave us. How can think speak and act in such a way 24 hours a day that I can become empowered in delivering the world. Start meditating like that, in that way you can keep yourself totally plugged into Krishna conscious 24 hours a day, and who needs low level lust. Low level lust means making a woman pregnant. But what’s more loving making one woman pregnant or making the whole world pregnant. Who needs the sex of the genitals. We have the supreme sex life that is preaching. Instead of injecting semen in some woman’s womb why not inject Krishna katha into the ears of the conditioned souls, that’s even more powerful than sex life. This preaching is the ultimate sex because by preaching you can make the whole world pregnant. Why only make one woman pregnant make the whole world pregnant. Why not go to the supreme lust. In that way you can give up the lower lust and exchange it for the higher lust. I want to make the whole world pregnant. Supreme sex life is making the whole world pregnant with Krishna consciousness.

Raghunandan das: Nowadays we don’t have kings but democratic form of government then how do we ensure that we elect the right leaders when most of the population is ignorant and try to vote for the leaders who are ready to satisfy their desires.

SDA: We have to educate the voters that’s all we can do. The only hope is to make the voters Krishna conscious. They won’t vote for anybody unless he is Krishna conscious. Right now, the population, because they are sudras they will vote for sudras. We have to make them Krishna conscious then they will vote for Krishna conscious leaders. They go to the poll to find out if any devotee is running for any offices if not then forget it, I am not voting, that should be the mood. Actually, one time in ISKCON we had a political party called “In God we trust”, we had devotees running for office in Gainesville FL. Our temple president was running for city council. But it is illegal for a religious organization to engage in politics. It is against the law. So, we had to stop it. But any devotees who are on their own and they want to run for office here in Austin, I will definitely go vote for you. Of course, I can’t vote in other places. If some devotees want to try running for office, so we can introduce Krishna conscious principles in the government. Devotees their should definitely vote for him.

Devotee: Hare Krishna Srila Gurudeva! Dandavat Pranam! First of all, I want to say I am sorry because I confused with when you asked me to read. I am really very sorry for that. My question is how to take the process of Krishna consciousness seriously?

SDA: How to take it seriously, it is a very nice question. One thing I was blessed the other day by coming apparently it could have been death itself. I felt unconscious, I had to go to the hospital emergency room. When you understand that let me take it very seriously now myself. I was already taking it very seriously but now it is much more serious. I was thinking that maybe I got 20 more years but I think at 74 I can die at any time. Of course, I am not, but my body is 74 years old. But you have to understand young people are dying all the time too. You can see every day in the newspapers some young person died either it was by accident or something with their health problem. You have to understand at any moment death can come. So let me take it very seriously that at any moment I can leave this body. Let me train myself so when death comes, I can immediately say- Hare Krishna, and be qualified to go back to my original home in the spiritual world. Ok

Devotee: yes Gurudeva. Thank you so much.

SDA: You are welcome.

Sharada devi dasi: What helps me to be steady in the process.

SDA: You have taken initiation vows so you have to be honest. You have taken a vow so you have to keep your word otherwise you are like an animal. An animal can’t take a vow and keep the promise. But as a human being you have taken initiation vows, so now you have to live up to the vows you have taken. Everyday chant at least 16 rounds and give up illicit sex life, meat eating, intoxication, and gambling become very serious. You can beg Krishna to help you. Krishna is right there with you at every minute, the spiritual master is also spiritually present at every minute. You can beg, my dear spiritual master my dear Srila Prabhupada, my dear Lord Caitanya, my dear Lord Nityananda, my dear Radha and Krishna please bless me I am having great difficulty to be steady in this process. So please help me. I am like a child learning to walk; I keep slipping and falling down along the way. I need to become strong and steady, every minute my mind is totally absorbed in loving service mood to Guru and Krishna. Please Guru Maharaja and Sri Krishna help me so I can always be in this mood. Begging begging begging that’s the key. You have to be in the mood of a beggar and always begging for the mercy in that way you will get the mercy. The more you beg for the mercy the more you will get the mercy. Don’t think you are on your own you can be Krishna conscious. Only by the mercy of guru and Krishna and Vaishnavas can you be Krishna conscious.

Aditya Raja: Maya distracts all people equally or she distracts devotees more.

SDA: No non-devotees are totally distracted. Devotees are less distracted and pure devotees are not at all distracted. The non-devotees are completely in maya’s grip. The neophyte devotees are trying to go back and forth, back and forth, and fixed up devotees are almost completely fixed and pure devotees are totally fixed.

Dhiraj: What sort of relationship a soul can have with Krishna? Is it through both love and anger are acceptable forms of feelings.

SDA: No. Kamsa’s mood is not in the spiritual world. He was inimical towards Krishna. Of course, mother Yashoda can be angry but her anger is in loving affection. She wants to train her boy to be a proper little boy. It is not based there can be anger in love like she tied that little rascal with ropes because He was naughty and to train that little naughty boy to be good, so she tied Him up with ropes. So that kind of divine anger could be but not inimical anger like Kamsa in the spiritual world.

I thank you all for tuning in. It is very nice that you all came.

Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare.

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